Modelling or skinning help.

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    Eagle

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    Modelling or skinning help.

    Post by Eagle on 15/06/10, 03:10 am

    I'm looking to start modelling or skinning so if anyone knows how to do either one can they put a mini tutorial for me on what I need to do it and maybe a small starter information.

    Gl@mRock

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    Re: Modelling or skinning help.

    Post by Gl@mRock on 15/06/10, 04:30 am

    Eagle wrote:I'm looking to start modelling or skinning so if anyone knows how to do either one can they put a mini tutorial for me on what I need to do it and maybe a small starter information.


    I would like to learn animation, any idea where to start?

    RoniSaysWoot

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    Re: Modelling or skinning help.

    Post by RoniSaysWoot on 15/06/10, 09:22 am

    Eagle wrote:I'm looking to start modelling or skinning so if anyone knows how to do either one can they put a mini tutorial for me on what I need to do it and maybe a small starter information.


    Do you have any experience of Photoshop? and which kind of texturing you want to learn, like retexturing for BF2 what means modifying the textures what is already ingame or then do your own texture from scratch over a UV map?

    For modelling i recomend that you learn 3D Studio Max because it is the mostly used 3D software so there is easy to find tutorials for it.

    Oh and for animation i don't have that much experience of that field.
    But you need to have 3D Studio Max or some other 3D software like C4D.

    I recommend that both of you go check this website out. There is tutorials for Texturing, modeling and maybe for animating.

    http://cg.tutsplus.com/

    Some other sites:

    Really good tutorials for beginners about modelling.
    http://3dtotal.com/

    The 10 top tips of texturing.
    http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=4678

    Eagle

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    Re: Modelling or skinning help.

    Post by Eagle on 15/06/10, 01:14 pm

    thanks Very Happy I'm completely new to it all but I am familiar with photoshop so I can handle that part gonna start checking it all out now Smile.

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    Re: Modelling or skinning help.

    Post by RoniSaysWoot on 15/06/10, 01:58 pm

    Ok Smile well for texturing its maybe kinda hard to start it if you don't have any models where your creating the texture. I think the first thing you should need to learn is what are UV maps and how to create realistic looking materials like metal or wood and then how to create additional details to the texture like screws, holes etc what the modeler has left out of the model. Later on you should learn how to create Normal maps to get more details to the texture.

    For example of the different maps i will be using the MP-18.
    I have resized the images from the original size.

    UV Map & Normal map
    (Originally there would only be the lines)



    Normal map
    (Change it to Black & White when used in a texture)



    Texture


    Krätzer

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    Re: Modelling or skinning help.

    Post by Krätzer on 15/06/10, 04:34 pm

    Normal map
    (Change it to Black & White when used in a texture)


    1. this is a bad rendered normal map, better make it in Photoshop
    2. A good normal looks like this and isn´t Black and white:

    3. you forgot the Specular, that is Black and White.

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    Re: Modelling or skinning help.

    Post by RoniSaysWoot on 15/06/10, 05:07 pm

    The normal map what i showed is one what i used on the texture to give the texture a bit of shading. I just created it from the model with zbrush and because the model is a low poly it doesnt have so much detail on it, to get a detail from a model to a map that high detailed as you have i would of first needed to create a high poly model and then bake the normals out of that and then clean the model to a low poly model. The normal map for the model im going to create that from the finished texture.

    Krätzer

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    Re: Modelling or skinning help.

    Post by Krätzer on 15/06/10, 09:37 pm

    Its right that you need an Highpoly one to bake good normal. But then i would do the normal Map in Photoshop and use an AO for shading.

    Why i should use the Nomarl for shading if i could shade it with one Texture Question

    CCCode

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    Re: Modelling or skinning help.

    Post by CCCode on 29/08/10, 02:13 am

    Normal maps gives you dynamic shading and diffuse with AO does not

    Edit: Without normal maps faces/polys look flat, something AO also don't fix

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    Re: Modelling or skinning help.

    Post by Krätzer on 29/08/10, 12:05 pm

    I prefer the combo, like the most EWngine do it in there shader files.

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    Re: Modelling or skinning help.

    Post by CCCode on 29/08/10, 09:03 pm

    Ofc. both Normal maps and AO is win..

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    Re: Modelling or skinning help.

    Post by CrazyIvan1745 on 31/08/10, 12:59 am

    normally you would want both normal maps and shading on your textures. Kratzer's normal map would be the ideal looking normal map as far as it even has the scrathes and looks overall more like metal should (aka Wood would have wood grain lines) Then when you shade the texture slightly it makes it show up a lot more. I'd have to ask Uber about how exactly he does it, but yeah. The less smooth, ultimately the better, because in reality nothing is perfectly smooth. Especially in war you have plenty of scratches hell even dirt could have a slight raise on it if it is more like mud.

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